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RSSI's scan channel dependancy

Dear Dialog,

I'd like to know following points about DA14580's central operation mode.

Q1: We observed that rssi seems to have strong dependancy to the scanning channel. When we set 5seconds
for scan interval, we saw 5 seconds'periodic change of rssi by almost 10 - 15dBm change even the distance
中央和周边的固定和实验is conducted in the shield room.
Can you explain this phenomenon?
We have checked there is only a very slight varience like 1dBm for peripheral's transmit power.

Q2: Is there any method available which allows us to retrieve the channel number information by each adv
packet received?

Q3: Can we make DA14580 scan by only one channel? I mean no frequency hopping between ch.37, 38 and 39.

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Hi yterasaki,

Hi yterasaki,

Q1. A badly matched antenna would show this effect and should be checked easily by measuring the transmited power of this antenna over all channels. You mention that you use a 5 seconds scan interval, does this mean that you are reading the RSSI of one connection over 5 seconds or you receive on other channels as well and having those RSSI values read out to? You read the peak hold or the average RSSI value ?

Q2. Unfortunatelly there is no method for the application to see on what channel he got the advertising event. This is deeply embdedded in the bluetooth stack code.

Q3. Normally the three advertising channels are scanned in order to avoid interfierence from other devices that trasmit at that time. There is no way to scan
indivividual advertising channels

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Thanks, Dialog staff,

Thanks, Dialog staff,
I'll check out anntena charactersitc, but regarding the question about rssi is either average or peak holded,
I've traced FW, but it seems that rssi value is retrieved by kernel function and I cannot find if the
value is averaged or peak holded. I'm using Dialog original source code of prox_monitor_ext as below.

DA1458x_SDK\5.0.3\projects\target_apps\ble_examples\prox_monitor_ext\Keil_5

Please tell me which mode original reference is using for rssi value.

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Regarding Q3:

Regarding Q3:
Please add the option to scan individual channel (or any other combination of channels 37-39) as a feature request.
This is highly important for many applications and most of your competitors have this option.

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Hi yterasaki,

Hi yterasaki,

If i understand correctly you use the proximity monitor application and you check the rssi value of the advertising string that is indicated in the gapm_adv_report_ind struct, is that correct ? If that is the case, then the rssi that you are measuring is current rssi of the current advertising string and not averaged. Can you please clarify how exactly you measure the RSSI.

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Dear Dialog,

Dear Dialog,

Thanks for your comment. Our measuring condition is 1pcs DA14580 based peropheral and 1pcs DA14580 based
central. Advertise interval is 100mS and scan interval is 5seconds.

We will re-measure rssi with the ideal condition and if we still have problem, I'll report it in this mail.
About rssi value, I understand that current my measuting is not averaged, namely peak hold. Could you tell me
where in the proximity monitor code we should change to retrive rssi as averaged value?

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Hi yterasaki,

Hi yterasaki,

One more question regarding your measurements, i am trying to understand the method of measuring the rssi in different channels with the proximity monitor, since in every scan window you can receive only from one advertising chanel, when the first advertising windows finishes the scanning on one channel, and the values are displayed on the console, when its time for the second window you see those values changed and differ between 10 - 15dbm ? Can you please clarify your way of measuring ?

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Hi Dialog,

Hi Dialog,

测量是通过每个1分的个人电脑arl and peripheral device. All the advertising data captured by the centaral is
transferred to the server with time stamp. Please take a look at the attached image. You can see the rssi value has periodic
change by almost 5.5 seconds which corresponds to the scan interval of central. During the measurement, both of central
and peripheral devicesa are fixed, no move.

please tell me how to change the FW source to get averaged rssi value.

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Hi yterasaki,

Hi yterasaki,

Sorry for the mis-understanding, since you refer to the RSSI of the advertising packets, the available RSSI is aquired by the stack (via ROM code) and passed to the advertising indication event, there is no implementation in order to get anything else besides the returned value. The value is the current value of the advertising packet. Also in an attemp to try and replicate your problem on my setup seems that the rssi between two succesive channels doesn't have a difference more than 1 db when using a development kit and a dongle with proximity monitor application.

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Dear Dialog, Thanks, I

Dear Dialog, Thanks, I understood fully.
Best Regards,